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Guys I have a question. I have seen the made in Mexico batman figures and they are missing copyright and date, so can a figure that has made in Mexico on the card have a Hong Kong figure in it? Did the factory in Mexico ship cardbacks without figures to kenner to be sealed in the us? I know the cardback that says made in Mexico has the Mexican figure and I assumed it was the cardbacks were either made there or they were made at kenner and shipped there to complete the carding. I did not know it could be the other way around. The reason I am asking is this auction on eBay.
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ClearlY a made in Mexico card with a figure that has the copyright on the leg. The upper thighs are different also on the made in Mexico figures they are like the Ledy figures where the Hong Kong figures are different. I was tempted to buy this, even with the damage but I am asking for more pics. He says the bubble has a crack, but figure can't be removed. To me either this is a made up job or my thinking was completely wrong on the assembly production of these.

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There are a few possibilities. It's possible that not all MiM Batman figures are lacking the date stamp. I've noticed leg variations on other MiM figures that vary between different cardback variations. Also, sometimes there is a "Made in Hong Kong" sticker affixed on top of the Mexico label on the card, as if they used the Mexico card on accident then corrected it with a sticker. Those stickers get very brittle over time, I've seen them come off easily. So that's also a possibility.

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I am probably over thinking this. I was applying what is thought to have occurred with the lili Ledy Star Wars figures to the super powers and the two may have been handled completely different to each other.

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The Lili Ledy Batman has several differences than the Kenner one, even the MiM Kenner Batman.

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Rasoul your inbox is full check your email =)

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The logo on the Lili Ledy Batman has always stood out as the major indentifier to me to differentiate from the Made in Mexico Batman figure. Here's a ]write-up I did years ago comparing a loose Lili Ledy Batman to the Kenner one. This was written pre-MiM Batman discovery which I detailed ]here.

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I wasn't comparing any other feature of the lili Ledy batman to the made in Mexico batman other than the upper right thigh. You can see from the mold line on the upper right thigh the made in Mexico and the Ledy are the same leg mold. Every figure with a copyright has a different upper right thigh. This makes sense as the copyright is on the interior of this thigh. My assumption was that the kenner Mexico factory which was producing these later sent the mold(s) to the ledy factory. Or they shared the same hardcopy to create their molds. The Ledy factory produced its own cardbacks and so I again assumed that the kenner factory in Mexico did also. What this means is that if the same factory made the unique non copyright marked figure and cardback, then the only way a Hong Kong figure would end on their cardback is if they ran into shortage and shipped in cardbacks or figures or an outside factory ran short and had them ship figures from Mexico to them.

The sticker saying made in Hong Kong would imply that the sticker was made and applied at the factory where the figure and cardback were put together. Since these sicker are on cardbacks that have copyrighted figures I assumed that means they were assembled in a Hong Kong or other kenner factory outside of Mexico using Mexico factory cardbacks from an overprint or overstock. This makes sense to me, but it only make sense to have things go one way not both. So to have a sticker that says made in Mexico with a non copyrighted figure on a Hong Kong cardback would mean that this was assembled in the Mexico factory using the Mexico figure but a regular cardback.

To me these things make little sense to have either cardbacks or figures going both directions. That is not something I have seen in other toy lines. With Star Wars lili Ledy produced the figures and shipped the figures to America where they were carded on made in Mexico cards. This is by accessories on the made in Mexico cards can be either Ledy or kenner. It makes sense that way. You will never find a kenner figure or accessory on a lili Ledy card though as it is a one way street. That is why I was asking as this is confusing to see these stickered cardbacks.

In the example above on eBay the figure is clearly not a made in Mexico figure. Rather it is a hong kong figure. The cardback is clearly a Mexico cardback. So I can only assume what rasoul said about the made in Hong Kong sticker drying up and coming off to be the case. Either that or the figure is switched. Having spoken at length to Star Wars guys I can tell you it makes no sense for the Mexico factory to be producing both copyrighted and non copyrighted figures. The molds are made from an existing hardcopy not hardcopies and they would not have recieved multiple different hardcopies. so the thigh then would be the same on all figures there.

I know this is long, but I hope it makes sense and clarifies what I was asking about earlier in the thread.

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Stumbled upon this auction, shows a good example of what I was talking about.
HK flash (you can tell by the legs) but with a Mexico cardback. This one is more obvious though because you can see the yellow where the sticker used to be.

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Not to derail this thread, but there's mention of "different thighs" on the Made in Mexico figures? I'm fairly new to collecting Super Powers, and had no idea that there we different sculpts! Is there any more info on this? Like maybe a photo gallery of different sculpts of different figures that exist?

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Here is an article that Mike wrote about the made in Mexico batman.

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In the picture of the made in Mexico next to the Hong Kong you can see the difference I am referring to. On the MIM batman the line going down the front of the right thigh goes straight from the froth are to the knee and in the other it goes further to the right before going down the rest of the thigh. Of course the copyright info has been removed on the MIM which is the main premise. i haven't jumped into it much further than that yet, but I do believe one of the super amigos which shares the same thigh as the MIM batman has a copyright but don't hold me to it as I haven't gotten one yet.

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